Talk:Cargo Request Computer - Revision history

imported>NonEuclideanHead: More editing & documentation; still not done;

2025-05-16T15:45:37Z

More editing & documentation; still not done;

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	15/05 - right now, the minimum 'viable product' is to a have a table with all the in game orders, and a very basic description of the computer and its use. Once that's up, the page should be moved to be visible on search engines, and instances of it elsewhere in the wiki should link back here.		15/05 - right now, the minimum 'viable product' is to a have a table with all the in game orders, and a very basic description of the computer and its use. Once that's up, the page should be moved to be visible on search engines, and instances of it elsewhere in the wiki should link back here.

	'''Relevant GitHub pages:'''		== '''Relevant GitHub pages:''' ==
	(take my rough documentation here with a grain of salt, this is what I can tell from the documents + my in-game experience. I am no experience with actually working on the game's code)		(take my rough documentation here with a grain of salt, this is what I can tell from the documents + my in-game experience. I am no experience with actually working on the game's code)
			=== orders ===
	[https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/tree/master/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog/Cargo space-station-14/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog /Cargo/]		[https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/tree/master/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog/Cargo space-station-14/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog /Cargo/]

	Contains all orders. Everything that is "type: cargoProduct" is an order that shows up on the computer		Contains all orders. Everything that is "type: cargoProduct" is an order that shows up on the computer.

	'''-id''' - id of the order (but not ''what is ordered'')		* '''id''' - id of the order (but not ''what is ordered'')
			* '''product''' - the id of what is being ordered (the id of the crate/thing that will be teleported)
			* '''cost''' - price of the order
			* '''category''' - under what filter does the order appear (that is determined by ''this'' field, not by the .yml the block is saved in. Noticeably, under "cargo_vending.yml" there are items that in-game appear under "service", not to mention that there is no "vending" tab to begin with

	~~'''~~-~~product'''~~ - ~~the id of what is being ordered (the id of the crate~~/~~thing that will be teleported)~~		=== crates ===
			[https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/tree/master/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog/Fills/Crates space-station-14/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog/Fills/Crates/]

	'''~~-cost~~''' ~~- price of the order~~		Contains all ''crates'', every "entity block" is a crate (often, one that has holds specific things). Do note: not every crate here can be ordered (like the few syndicate crates), and there are orders that '''aren't''' taken from here (there are a few orders that aren't crates, such as atmospheric canisters and artifacts).

	'''~~-category~~''' - ~~under what filter does~~ the ~~order appear~~ (~~that~~ is ~~determined by~~ ''~~this~~'' ~~field~~, ~~not by~~ the .~~yml~~ the ~~block is saved in. Noticeably~~, ~~under "cargo_vending.yml" there are items~~ that ~~in-game appear under "service"~~, ~~not to mention that there is no~~ "~~vending~~" ~~tab~~ to ~~begin with~~		* '''id''' - id of the custom crate (this is the id used in the prev block's "category" field)
			* '''parent''' - the type of crate that is used (basically, the id of the empty version of this crate). not sure what it means when the field contains a list, I think the 2nd entry can be used to modify the access the crate normally has (crates also have default access on top of that, so even just having "ChemCrate" will still have the order spawn with its access restricted to chem)
	~~[https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/tree/master/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog/Fills/Crates space-station-14/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog/Fills/Crates/]~~

	== low priority - infobox ==		== low priority - infobox ==

imported>NonEuclideanHead: Adding "documentation" - github links to the relevant pages and short explanations (perhaps unnecessary, but seems useful to me); Still unfinished, just saving partway;

2025-05-15T12:45:31Z

Adding "documentation" - github links to the relevant pages and short explanations (perhaps unnecessary, but seems useful to me); Still unfinished, just saving partway;

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	15/05 - right now, the minimum 'viable product' is to a have a table with all the in game orders, and a very basic description of the computer and its use. Once that's up, the page should be moved to be visible on search engines, and instances of it elsewhere in the wiki should link back here.		15/05 - right now, the minimum 'viable product' is to a have a table with all the in game orders, and a very basic description of the computer and its use. Once that's up, the page should be moved to be visible on search engines, and instances of it elsewhere in the wiki should link back here.

			'''Relevant GitHub pages:'''
			(take my rough documentation here with a grain of salt, this is what I can tell from the documents + my in-game experience. I am no experience with actually working on the game's code)
			[https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/tree/master/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog/Cargo space-station-14/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog /Cargo/]

			Contains all orders. Everything that is "type: cargoProduct" is an order that shows up on the computer

			'''-id''' - id of the order (but not ''what is ordered'')

			'''-product''' - the id of what is being ordered (the id of the crate/thing that will be teleported)

			'''-cost''' - price of the order

			'''-category''' - under what filter does the order appear (that is determined by ''this'' field, not by the .yml the block is saved in. Noticeably, under "cargo_vending.yml" there are items that in-game appear under "service", not to mention that there is no "vending" tab to begin with

			[https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/tree/master/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog/Fills/Crates space-station-14/Resources/Prototypes/Catalog/Fills/Crates/]

	== low priority - infobox ==		== low priority - infobox ==

imported>NonEuclideanHead: added the current goal for the status of the page at the beginning of the discussion

2025-05-15T11:40:09Z

added the current goal for the status of the page at the beginning of the discussion

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	First page I made from scratch on this wiki, if you think something is formatted wrong / confusingly, there's a good chance that it is, please do feel free to help and fix.		First page I made from scratch on this wiki, if you think something is formatted wrong / confusingly, there's a good chance that it is, please do feel free to help and fix.

			15/05 - right now, the minimum 'viable product' is to a have a table with all the in game orders, and a very basic description of the computer and its use. Once that's up, the page should be moved to be visible on search engines, and instances of it elsewhere in the wiki should link back here.

	== low priority - infobox ==		== low priority - infobox ==

imported>NonEuclideanHead: continuing the discussion about the orders table

2025-05-15T11:36:25Z

continuing the discussion about the orders table

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	: Thats the plan! I'm currently reworking my "script" that does automatic updated on items and item recipes and I plan to add stuff like this to it (and many more!). Of course if you want to automate this - feel free to, because who knows when Im gonna finish my thing. [[User:Aliser\|Aliser]] ([[User talk:Aliser\|talk]]) 02:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)		: Thats the plan! I'm currently reworking my "script" that does automatic updated on items and item recipes and I plan to add stuff like this to it (and many more!). Of course if you want to automate this - feel free to, because who knows when Im gonna finish my thing. [[User:Aliser\|Aliser]] ([[User talk:Aliser\|talk]]) 02:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

			:: seeing as I currently don't know how to do this, for now I will just copy/write the information by hand, not ''all'' of it (description is really unimportant, if I don't find where to copy if from the git, I am not going to waste time typing it manually). The most important information at the moment is to have the orders name, category, price, and ''actual'' content (which the description isn't always correct about...)
			:: however, in general, making the script is definitely worth it in the long term. Even in the event it breaks, the text/table itself that will be generated (or will be available at the last version of the git before the bricking) will still be useable ''as text'' until the script can be fixed/replaced. The only way it won't is if, not only the repository format is changed, but also the content of the orders themselves are significantly altered, in which case, both text and code will need to be altered anyway, so more work will have to be done regardless of what path we take.
			:: also, I forgot that the "cargo" page has most of the orders already written down, so a lot of the manual typing is already done... Just needs to be moved and updated a bit. [[User:NonEuclideanHead\|NonEuclideanHead]] 11:34, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

imported>Aliser at 02:06, 15 May 2025

2025-05-15T02:06:43Z

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	Just something to consider for the future		Just something to consider for the future

			: Makes sense. Something like a "structure" infobox for machines and stuff (think fax machines, PA, airlocks or smth). If you could compile a list of fields for these, I can quickly throw an infobox together. [[User:Aliser\|Aliser]] ([[User talk:Aliser\|talk]]) 02:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

	== High(est for this page) priority - orders table ==		== High(est for this page) priority - orders table ==
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	There is more to this specific discussion - I will continue this page tomorrow (hopefully)		There is more to this specific discussion - I will continue this page tomorrow (hopefully)

			: Thats the plan! I'm currently reworking my "script" that does automatic updated on items and item recipes and I plan to add stuff like this to it (and many more!). Of course if you want to automate this - feel free to, because who knows when Im gonna finish my thing. [[User:Aliser\|Aliser]] ([[User talk:Aliser\|talk]]) 02:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

imported>NonEuclideanHead at 23:20, 14 May 2025

2025-05-14T23:20:03Z

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	Page for the cargo request computer		Page for the cargo request computer

	Very, '''very''', work in progress at the moment.		Very, '''very''', work in progress at the moment.

imported>NonEuclideanHead: /* High(est for this page) priority - orders table */ new section

2025-05-14T23:19:27Z

High(est for this page) priority - orders table: new section

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	Just something to consider for the future		Just something to consider for the future

			== High(est for this page) priority - orders table ==

			considering the all the data for the table is available via the github, the entire table can just be automated by having a format/script pull the info from there. This would basically solve all formatting discussion because it we can just have the table display things in how they are presented in the code and in game 1 to 1.

			With the massive benefit of "only needing to do this once": if a script can do it, only a single line needs to be formatted, the rest ''should'' be automatic,
			and then even the massive-er benefit of having the page basically maintain itself!
			(as long as large changes aren't done to the data format, which will damage or straight up brick the script, which is totally a possibility)

			There is more to this specific discussion - I will continue this page tomorrow (hopefully)

imported>NonEuclideanHead: /* low priority - infobox */ new section

2025-05-14T23:02:57Z

low priority - infobox: new section

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	First page I made from scratch on this wiki, if you think something is formatted wrong / confusingly, there's a good chance that it is, please do feel free to help and fix.		First page I made from scratch on this wiki, if you think something is formatted wrong / confusingly, there's a good chance that it is, please do feel free to help and fix.

			== low priority - infobox ==

			right now, i dont think any infobox template is designed / designated to be used for consoles/computers/machines or even constructs in general

			I definitely think there should be one for consoles/computers/machines, seeing as its an entire category of items / structures in it of itself, there are a lot of them, they are probably here to stay, and they are very formulaic

			with all that said - overall, low priority; the already existing infoboxs (right now, mostly the item infobox) should probably be worked on and refined beofre hand, seeing as there arent many pages that need a "console infobox" at the moment

			Just something to consider for the future

imported>NonEuclideanHead: Discussion added

2025-05-14T22:57:16Z

Discussion added

New page

Page for the cargo request computer
Very, '''very''', work in progress at the moment.

First page I made from scratch on this wiki, if you think something is formatted wrong / confusingly, there's a good chance that it is, please do feel free to help and fix.